Irish singer & bass player Merv Spence more recently released Phenomena Recovered. A solo project that saw him revisiting many of the Phenomena tracks from the 80s & 90s. Phenomena was project in that was conceived by producer Tom Galley and his brother, guitarist – Mel (Trapeze, Whitesnake). In this interview, Merv details his involvement in Phenomena, his new release, as well as talks about his time with Trapeze and Wishbone Ash, other recordings, and what else he’s been up to in recent years, *For more on Phenomena Recovered see my previous post on it’s release, and check out the links below.

How did you originally get involved with the Phenomena project? (You were first involved as Exec Producer on the Inner vision album, correct?) 

I knew Tom Galley (the creator of Phenomena) from when I was in the band Trapeze. While recording songs for a new Trapeze album (circa1982) unbeknown to me we also started recording some pre-production song ideas on what would become the birth of the debut Phenomena album. The Trapeze album was never completed as Mel Galley was offered Whitesnake and I then went on to join Wishbone Ash. It was many years later (circa 1990) while working on an album in Switzerland; I got a call from Tom who had just completed recording Phenomena III. He basically told me that BMG rejected the album and asked if I could help place the album with a new record company in Europe. To cut a long story short no major label wanted to get involved due to legal issues between Tom and BMG, so he asked if I would be interested in acquiring Phenomena and offered to sell the entire Phenomena concept and copyright to me, which I accepted. To secure a commercial release, I first had to clear a backlog of debts built up on the production of Phenomena III. This included unpaid studio fees, musicians, engineers etc. as well as negotiating and reaching an acceptable agreement with BMG to release the Master Tapes. It was a nightmare to sort out but I managed to resolve things. I managed to secure a successful release in Sweden with Phenomena III (Inner Vision) reaching no12 in the album charts. After that other territories approached me to license the project.

This new release includes the tracks (remastered!?) that you originally recorded in 1995 for the Initiate album. How did that album come about? Why the recordings of Phenomena tracks then, as well as under the name of O’Ryan? 

Around 1994, a copy of my first solo album O’Ryan “Something Strong” fell into the hands of AVA Aura Ltd., a new Japanese music & media company who had set up offices in London. They had major investment for acquiring new media and music projects in the UK and when the MD heard my debut album, he contacted my solicitor to set up a meeting. They wanted to work with me on a new album and offered me a deal I could not refuse. I already had my own studio and I was given full creative control. MD of AVA Aura Hisa Seki selected all the songs he wanted me to re-record for the Initiate album and even though it was kind of a weird concept? I accepted the challenge. I installed an old 24track 2-inch Soundcraft analogue recorder in the studio with a Mackie 48 cannel desk and the entire album was produced using this format. My main objective was to try and arrange and produce the songs with a different interpretation to the originals, which was no easy feat. Engineer/Producer Simon Hanhart, Co-producer Jason Fillingham, and myself mixed the album at PUK Studios in Denmark. The name O’Ryan was an Irish pseudonym I choose to use rather than my birth name but with the Phenomena Recovered reissue I choose to put it out under Merv Spence.

How was the reaction to Initiate? It was only released in a few territories!? 

I think it was received very well but like any album everyone has an opinion, some people will love it and some will not. When I finish an album I tend to let it go and I really will not listen to it again for a long time. I had no control over the release or the distribution in other territories but I did travel to Japan several times for promotion. Also one of the songs (Emer May) was used on a TV advert in Japan for a sports car which helped. The people at AVA Aura were great to work with and very enthusiastic but had no real experience of the Music Industry and doing music business in the UK and Japan is so different. They took up the option to record another album with me that I started recording in 1996. Unfortunately due to ill heath with the MD, the relationship with AVA regrettably terminated.
 
How did this new release (to remaster, reissue, and record) the Phenomena songs come about? 

Explore Rights Management Ltd. approached me and put the suggestion of remarketing and reissuing the Phenomena tracks on “Initiate”. They also asked if I would be prepared to record a couple of additional bonus songs. The song “Slave” that is also an additional track has a strong connection to the visionary/artist William Blake and inspired me to use one of his paintings for the front cover. “Slave” was originally written and used on a film called “The Gnostics” (circa 1987) which I updated it for a new Phenomena album. The lyrics are a combination of a William Blake poem and additional lyrics I added to enhance the song commercially.
 
There are 2 brand new recordings on this release – what inspired those, and can you tell me details about recording them (who else is involved, etc..)? 

I wanted to keep the continuity of the Phenomena theme so I picked “Rock My Soul” & “Dance With The Devil” to record as the additional bonus tracks. I originally was going to record the songs acoustically but I kind of got carried away creatively with the arrangements in the studio. Like most musicians or producers I have a small writing setup at home and the majority of the material was recorded and produced there. I did record acoustic guitars and some live vocals on “Rock My Soul” in Donegal on the West coast of Ireland, which are the main template of that song. You never know how things will transpire which is part of the magic.

 
Going back to the beginning, can you tell us a bit about your beginning in music – influences, earliest bands…? 
 
Being born and brought up on the East Coast of Ireland I had and still have a really strong connection with traditional Irish and country music. Artists like Neil Young, America, Horslips, Eagles heavily influenced me, as well as a great Irish songwriter called Jonathan Kelly. I first heard Led Zeppelin II at my grandparents, a copy that my uncle had bought before immigrating to Canada. From listening to that I got into more progressive acts such as Pink Floyd, Yes, Deep Purple and Rush. I got my first guitar at aged 13 (a 6 string Eko Ranger acoustic) and the first song I ever wrote was entitled “Money Man”. I left Ireland for UK mainland when I was sixteen to train as an engineer but it also gave me the opportunity to get closer to the UK Music Industry. I qualified after four years and by this time I was already playing bass and singing lead vox in local bands in and around The Midlands (The birthplace of heavy metal). I was in a three-piece band called Big Daisy & later Jury with musicians Degg Newman (Drums) Roger Fox (1st Guitarist) Tim Rowe (2nd Guitar) and we recorded our first single at Woodbine Street Studios in Leamington with Producer Johnny Rivers. We continued to record a lot of material, which eventually was released on the Big Daisy debut album on both 12” vinyl and CD on German label HR Records (circa 2014)

How did you get involved with Trapeze? Can you give details on that period – who else was in the band still, how long and (roughly) how many gigs this was? 

Some people recommended me to Mel Galley and he just turned up at some of the Big Daisy gigs. Trapeze (circa 1982) was made up of Mel Galley (Guitars & Vocals) Richard Bailey (Keyboards) Steve Bray (Drums) Kex Gorin (Drums) and myself (Bass & Vocals). We went into rehearsals at the Managers nightclub/music venue in Wolverhampton and performed a few warm-up shows round the Midlands before embarking on a UK tour supporting Edgar Winter in 1982. It was a very short period of this line-up before Mel left to join Whitesnake.
 
Trapeze ended when Mel joined Whitesnake(!?)  But had the band recorded an album while you were there? And what became of these recordings? 

I have a live cassette recording of 2 shows in 1982 (Oxford & London) from the Edgar Winter tour, which was taken off the out front mixing console. Some of the new songs were included in the live set. I also have a cassette copy of several recordings from the unfinished studio sessions before Mel Galley joined Whitesnake.
 
You also joined Wishbone Ash for the Raw To The Bone album. How did the WA gig come about? 

I got a call from a musician friend who told me bass player Trevor Bolder had left Wishbone Ash and that the band was after a replacement bass player. I put a call into their manager John Sherry and an hour later I was asked if I could come to London the next day as the band were in rehearsals. I turned up and did about three/four songs and went home. I got a call from Andy Powell about 11.pm that night and the following week I was off on a 6-week tour of America. I then went on to take front of stage as bass player/lead singer and I was actually in the band for about a year before we started recording Raw to the Bone. We recorded the album at Surrey Sound with Producer Nigel Grey and I continued to tour with the band internationally for about four years. Touring is an amazing life if you have no ties but I left after my first daughter was born.

 
Raw To The Bone was a more hard-rock (for the times) Ash album, and you are credited as a co-writer throughout. What are your thoughts on this album and your contributions to it? Did any tracks come directly from you? 

When I joined WA I think the band were at a crossroads in they’re career needing a bit of enlightenment in finding a fresh direction and I do not think the guys would disagree with me on this. After a very successful career with MCA Records and headline tours in America the guys were slightly lost and without a record deal. When we went into the studio to start work on Raw To The Bone I did bring a lot of new song ideas but everything was democratic and it was agreed we all have an equal split, no matter who contributed the ideas. As a lead singer my vocal style would obviously give the songs a slightly heavier edge and I respect the guys for giving me the opportunity without manipulating this. But we must also appreciate that WA is predominately a highly respected guitar band who were responsible for creating that classic twin lead guitar technique and the band still continues to pack audiences in all over the globe. As a musician, songwriter and producer I do not create music or compositions to please fans, I just do what I do as a creator and if the fans like it great if not tough. Again I did not listen to the album for a long time but, when I have done guest appearances with the band, the fans demand certain songs off that album. I am very proud of it.
 
Any other ‘name’ band offers over the years? 

Yes, I have worked on a number of albums in Europe and have been in rehearsals with various named musicians for new and existing projects but I would rather not say who they were. Some times the chemistry is just not right or I was not really interested. One project that was fantastic came about when I started writing songs with a partner in Germany. The songs were so good and we both signed an amazing deal with Warner Brothers International. We recorded the album in Germany and mixed it in Nashville with Producer John Guess. We delivered what I believed was a great album but some at Warner’s thought different. To this day I am not sure why Warner’s had an issue but through the grapevine I was told someone felt my lyrics were too political for the label? In the end they paid us off and I demanded that they also sign the Master tapes over to us. This album ended up being my debut solo album O’Ryan “Something Strong”. When rock music went through that “Dinosaur” period (circa 2000) of not being cool I got more involved in Artist Development, Artist Management and promoting major outdoor Events.
 

What else are you currently up to — any recordings, live gigs? 

I relocated back to my native Ireland in 2016 and as well as continuing to write and produce music, I embarked on a DL Masters Degree in Music Composition at Bath Spa University qualifying in 2019, I am also in the first stages of a PHD. Pre Covid I was in discussions with musicians and Management in Sweden to record a new album with the objective of touring in 2020 but covid unfortunately terminated that idea. The pandemic was a really difficult time especially for the creative industries with an unknown resolve but I tried to keep busy working on songs and developing projects. I currently have two albums that I am updating for reissue with additional tracks and new artwork. The first is my debut solo album “Something Strong” (circa 1987) and the other with the working title (Insurrection) has never been released, I have also written about 20 new songs for an acoustic album that I hope to start working on in December 2023. There are various other ideas in the pipeline and since the release of Phenomena Recovered; several labels in the UK, Europe & Japan have approached to get involved. My plan at the moment is to just get the product right and after that I will make a decision about releasing and possibly doing some acoustic live shows.
I have no rules when it comes to the creative process and started creative writing and script writing during lockdown. I have a film script in development entitled “The Maidens” that I hope to produce as a film short but the logistics are a bit difficult as the story is based around two abandoned lighthouses off the East coast of Ireland.

LINKS:

http://www.mervspence.com
http://web.archive.org/web/20200220020559/http://www.phenomenaproject.co.uk/music.php

https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/merv-spence-phenomena-recovered-cd/